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How to set the sort order of posts in Topics
April 25, 2013
11:31 am
Steve
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Hi. I can't find where to set the sort order of posts in Topics. I always want to have the latest posts be at the top of the list of posts, instead of at the bottom.

Thanks!

April 25, 2013
12:43 pm
Mark Fleming
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Hi Steve.  Thanks for using our new forum.

The sort order for topics, and the sort order for posts in topics, are set globally for everyone.  They're isn't a way for individual users to change their own sort order.

We use the universally standard method of displaying topics in newest to oldest order, and posts within topics in oldest to latest order (order of posting). But these posts are paginated within a topic so in long threads you can easily jump to the last page.

April 25, 2013
1:24 pm
Steve
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Hi Mark,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, you are using the VERY inconvenient and irritating sort method for posts in a topic that too many forums use. Your forum displays the oldest posts in topics first, at the top, and the newest posts at the end or bottom :( The more posts that there are in a topic, the more inconvenient and irritating this becomes, because it forces anybody who is following a post, or even just checking the latest information… to have to go to the bottom of the last page. New posts should be at the top/beginning of the first page.

Why is it important to show topics in a convenient sort order of displaying the newest at the top, but then do the opposite and display the posts within a topic displaying the oldest first? The only people who this is convenient for might be for someone who is reading the posts in a topic for the first time. Let THEM go to the end, INSTEAD of making everyone who is actively participating in the topic have to go to the end of the last page EVERY TIME, in order to see the latest post.

The "industry standard" is to have a user selectable setting to choose which they want. This is only the second of dozens of forums that I belong to that does it backwards like this, and doesn't offer the option to select which sort order they prefer. PLEASE contact the author/publisher of the forum software that you're using and request that they UPGRADE their application to let users select which sort order they prefer.

Thanks,

Steve

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Mark Fleming said

Hi Steve.  Thanks for using our new forum.

The sort order for topics, and the sort order for posts in topics, are set globally for everyone.  They're isn't a way for individual users to change their own sort order.

We use the universally standard method of displaying topics in newest to oldest order, and posts within topics in oldest to latest order (order of posting). But these posts are paginated within a topic so in long threads you can easily jump to the last page.

April 25, 2013
2:47 pm
Mark Fleming
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Why is it important to show topics in a convenient sort order of displaying the newest at the top, but then do the opposite and display the posts within a topic displaying the oldest first?

The reason that topic display and post display within a topic are different is because they are not the same thing in the first place.    A topic is a conversation -- it begins with an initial post and the replies follow. So showing them in chronological order makes sense. 

A list of topics within a forum is a list of a bunch of different conversations. One topic does not relate to another, as does post within a topic.  So the order is most recent (actually, most recently updated topic) first.

Contrary to your opinion, this is the way the vast majority of forums do it. I just went to about a dozen very large forums and they all do it this way.  For example:

Wordpress.org
dnforum.com
namepros.com

I even went to the forums of the forum software companies themselves to see how they do it:

vbulletin
phpbb
xenforo

I could go on and on with examples.

I also have not seen many forums that give an option for the user to reverse the order.

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